After
I sent out an email similar to the above writeup, Mark Apel circulated
an answer, and I circulated a reply to the points he made. Here's my reply.
Mark's response opens:
As
important influences in you [sic] community, I wanted to clarify the
facts regarding Mike Jackson's report of the work session with the
Board on Tuesday regarding a clustered development proposal. Although
Mr. Jackson raises some valid points about Ms. Kopplin's report on tax
revenues between wildcat versus subdivided lots, ...
----My note: Nowhere does Mark's email dispute any of the points I raised about the first report.
Mark continues:
... he misrepresents the second presentation by my graduate students on sustainable development and green building. First, this WAS NOT about master development proposals or rezoning as the emails you wrote state.
----My
note: My report said nothing about master development or
rezoning, so Mark isn't accusing me based on anything I wrote. That's irresponsible of him.
----Also:
Mark is misreading the other emails he mentions. One
of them said "Let the students practice on Pima County. We've
confronted master-planned communities and resoundingly rejected them,
and as you say, Envisioning 2020 had the same effect! Why do they have
to keep revisiting this issue, forgodsake!" The other one said "our
county government does not get the drift that many folks in Cochise
county would like to retain a rural atmosphere. Our county seems to
ignore the obvious, the Smith Ranch initiative, the Envision 2020 work
shops and all the hoopla when a more intense rezoning appears before
them, that the residents like to live in a 'Wildcat subdivision' and
they do not necessarily care to live in pod housing." The clear point
is that the people of Cochise County have shown they don't want to
be "pod people" no matter how that idea is
presented. Instead of answering, Mark weakly dribbles out a
response about the technical language that the "pod people" idea
is presented in. He has no basis for his accusing me, or anyone
else, of misrepresentation.
Mark continues:
This was
for a real 43 acre piece of property zoned TR-36 where up to 52 homes
can be built right now within the growth boundary (not corporate
boundary) of Sierra Vista. This presentation was about how this parcel
could be developed or subdivided under two scenarios - 1 acre parcels
versus clustered - all under existing zoning.
----My
note: Once again, Mark shows no misrepresentation by anyone.
It's Mark's statement that's misleading, because the
presentation was not about how the parcel could be developed
under two scenarios. The only thought went into the "pod people" scenario.
Mark continues:
Secondly,
not one person in this presentation was suggesting that the current
rural residents of Cochise County leave their happy homes on 1 or 4
acre parcels and be forced to live in clustered housing - as implied by
your statements in the emails below.
----My note: Once again, Mark is accusing me of misrepresentations based on statements by other people.
Mark continues:
This
presentation was about how to plan and design for the influx of
residents who are not here yet. Whether they come tomorrow or in 10
years is left to conjecture given the country's current economic woes,
but the reality is that more people will be coming at some point.
----My
note: Two years ago, all the big real estate developers were saying
"Cochise County will keep growing forever! Boom! Boom! Boom!" Last
year, they were saying "The real estate crisis is a short-lived
fluke! The boom will
resume!" Now Mark is saying "Maybe there won't be growth soon, but
it'll happen someday, so let's plan for it now." Apparently nothing will stop the big developers and their
allies from trying to keep county government focused on their needs only. This county has real problems which all three
supervisors have ignored for years; Mark is sticking to those old
politics, which is disappointing.
Mark continues:
Although
the idea of living in a clustered housing unit is objectionable to
some, it is very desirable by others and it is unconscionable to
suggest that new residents be denied the choice to live in that type of
housing as it is to suggest that people don't have a right to live on
large acreages.
----My
note: Nobody has suggested that anybody be denied the choice to live in
the kind of housing they want. What people are asking is, Why accommodate the "pod people" in this particular county? If a
person really wants to live in a glorified
apartment house, then live where such projects
exist in droves -- Phoenix, for instance.
----Second note: If the "pod people" project were built, the county would
nudge people to live there, and would discourage people from living in
the traditional Cochise County way. This isn't speculation on my part;
at the meeting on May 6, county supervisor Call suggested that if the
cluster project were built, the county would find incentives for people
to live there. Perhaps Mark will explain his argument that choice
should be free -- except for public incentives to people who choose
what the county's planners prefer.
Mark continues:
However,
further development of larger parcels on virgin landscapes with dirt
roads is environmentally irresponsible and unsustainable - in spite of
the fact they may have the right to do so. Larger parcels in removed
areas on dirt or even paved roads usually means more vehicle miles
traveled to obtain basic goods and services and usually means larger
vehicles with low fuel efficiency to negotiate dirt roads. It also
means greater fragmentation of the landscape and impacts to wildlife,
in spite of the perceived open space that each lot has. The proposal
suggested by the University students resulted in 73% open space. These
are facts, not perceptions.
----My
note: The "pod people" plan has about double the paved roads that it
needs. Apparently an extra road had to be built behind the houses for
"service" vehicles. Mark might explain why doubling the paved area was
necessary for his "green" plan.
----Also: Mark argue that dirt roads "usually" mean
more travel via inefficient vehicles, therefore dirt roads, and the
spread-out neighborhoods that use them, must be controlled or abolished. My view is that individuals can
make intelligent decisions on their own. Mark should agree with me: he himself drives a
very efficient car, without government forcing him to. Does he
think the rest of us are too stupid to make the same decision on our own?
----Also:
Mark argues that multi-acre lots fragment the
landscape and affect wildlife. That's true, but Mark is being
misleading in not mentioning that the effects can be helpful to
wildlife. A fragmented landscape has, by definition, more
"edges" where properties meet, and many animals flourish at "edges,"
because fences or more intense vegetation provide shelter for living
and
protection from predators. Mark shouldn't have implied that all human
"impacts" are bad.
Mark closes:
I have
attached their full report for you as well as the guide they researched
and compiled on best green building practices. This is what was
presented to Cochise County and I am proud to have been a part of their
effort as their co-instructor. Please don't hesitate to contact me
should you have any questions.
----My
note: I hope everyone reads the full report, and considers the
assumptions behind it. Once again, however, Mark is being misleading. The full report was presented to the county, yes, but
copies were not given to everyone at the meeting. To my recollection,
there were only three or four paper copies actually distributed.
I told
Mark long ago, when he still worked for the county, that if I make an
incorrect statement, I'll correct it and apologize for it. His report
is full of incorrect statements, and I wonder if he'll reciprocate my courtesy. UPDATE: as of May 16, not a hint of any retraction or apology from Mark.
Another citizen had this response as the emails went by (Mark's letter
is quoted, with citizen comments in red; for some reason I can't enlarge the type in this email):
FOLKS
BELOW IS MY TAKE ON THIS AND AS WAS SUGGESTED BY SOMEONE WE MAY
AGREE TO DISAGREE. COMMENTS IN RED ARE MY PERSONAL COMMENTS AND NO REFLECTION
OF ANYONES OPINION OTHER THAN MINE....
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Original Message -----
...
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: Tuesday afternoon's work session on individual v.
pod-person development
Dear ... and ...,
As important influences in you community, I wanted to
clarify the facts regarding Mike Jackson's report of the work session with the
Board on Tuesday regarding a clustered development proposal. Although
Mr. Jackson raises some valid points about Ms. Kopplin's report on tax
revenues between wildcat versus subdivided lots, he misrepresents the second
presentation by my graduate students on sustainable development and green
building. First, this WAS NOT about master development proposals
or rezoning as the emails you wrote state. This was for a real 43 acre
piece of property zoned TR-36 where up to 52 homes can be built right now
within the growth boundary (not corporate boundary) of Sierra Vista. (MARK WITH THE
SLOPE AND GRADE AS THIS PROPERTY STANDS CAN THE DEVELOPER ACTUALLY
CONSTRUCT 52 HOMES WITHOUT GOING TO THE POD TYPE DEVELOPMENT? )This
presentation was about how this parcel could be developed or subdivided under
two scenarios - 1 acre parcels versus clustered - all under existing
zoning. Secondly, not one person in this presentation was suggesting
that the current rural residents of Cochise County leave their happy homes on
1 or 4 acre parcels and be forced to live in clustered housing - as implied by
your statements in the emails below.(IT
WAS NOT IMPLIED BY OUR STATEMENTS THAT ANY PERSON MAKING THE PRESENTATION
WAS ASKING US TO LEAVE OUR HAPPY RURAL HOMES, BUT YOUR COMMENT BELOW STATING
THAT FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS ON LARGER PARCELS OF VIRGIN LAND IS ENVIRONMENTALLY
IRRESPONSIBLE IS A TELLING REMINDER THAT SEEMS TO BE THE GOAL OF THE
CURRENT LEADERS OF OUR COUNTY TO TAKE AWAY THAT CHOICE AND GIVE BONUSES TO
DEVELOPERS WHO TAKE A PARCEL OF PROPERTY AND CONSTRUCT AS MANY
HOMES AS POSSIBLE AND THE HOMEOWNER WHO CHOOSES TO BUY A LARGER
PARCEL AND BUILD A WILDCAT HOME REAPS NO REWARD. This
presentation was about how to plan and design for the influx of residents who
are not here yet. Whether they come tomorrow or in 10 years is left to
conjecture given the country's current economic woes, but the reality is that
more people will be coming at some point. Although the idea of
living in a clustered housing unit is objectionable to some, it is very
desirable by others and it is unconscionable to suggest that new residents be
denied the choice to live in that type of housing as it is to suggest that
people don't have a right to live on large acreages.
However, further development of larger
parcels on virgin landscapes with dirt roads is environmentally irresponsible
and unsustainable - in spite of the fact they may have the right to do
so. (MARK WHY WOULD
YOU FEEL THAT FURTHER DEVELOPMENT ON LARGER PARCELS OF VIRGIN LAND WITH DIRT
ROADS IS ANYMORE ENVIRONMENTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE AND UNSUSTAINABLE THEN THIS
PROJECT TAKING A VIRGIN HILLSIDE WITH STEEP SLOPES ON THE SIDE OF A MOUNTAIN
AND PLACING 70+ RESIDENTS. THE BONUS THIS DEVELOPMENT GETS WHICH RESULTS
IN 73% OPEN SPACE IS NOT FROM THE GENEROUS NATURE OF THE DEVELOPER,
BUT STRICTLY BECAUSE A LARGE PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY IS ON A STEEP GRADE AS
THE STUDY MENTIONED THEY WOULD NEED TO GET AND
EASEMENT TO CREATE SOME OF THE WALKING TRAILS SO THE GRADE OF THE
TRAILS WOULD BE LESS THAN 10%.) Larger parcels in removed
areas on dirt or even paved roads usually means more vehicle miles traveled to
obtain basic goods and services and usually means larger vehicles with low
fuel efficiency to negotiate dirt roads. (MARK AS STATED IN
THE REPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS 10 MILES FROM THE CITY WHICH WOULD MEAN APPROX.
160 NEW RESIDENTS TRAVELING ABOUT 20 MILES A DAY TO OBTAIN BASIC GOODS
AND SERVICES, SO HOW CAN THIS BE GREEN? WHEN YOU ARE A RURAL RESIDENT YOU DO
LEARN NOT TO JUST JUMP IN THE LARGE VEHICLE WITH LOW FUEL EFFICIENCY TO
RUN TO THE CITY TO BUY A LOAF OF BREAD.) It also means greater
fragmentation of the landscape and impacts to wildlife, in spite of the
perceived open space that each lot has. (MARK HERE
IS FOOD FOR THOUGHT I LIVE ON A RURAL ROAD FACING BOTH SIDE OF THE
ROADWAY ENCOMPASSES 140 AC, WITH THE CURRENT ZONING THAT IS A MAXIMUM OF
28 HOMES COMPARED, THAT IS 28 HOMES ON 140 AZ, TO THIS GREEN DEVELOPMENT ON 43
AC WITH 70+ HOMES, WHERE IS THE GREATER FRAGMENTATION OF LANDSCAPE AND IMPACTS
ON WILDLIFE, IT IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER, THIS IS NOT IN SPITE OF THE
PERCEIVED OPEN SPACE, BECAUSE THE OPEN SPACE IS MUCH GREATER THAN THE 72 HOMES
ON 43 AC.) The proposal suggested by the University students resulted
in 73% open space. These are facts, not perceptions. I have attached their
full report for you as well as the guide they researched and compiled on best
green building practices. This is what was presented to Cochise County and I
am proud to have been a part of their effort as their co-instructor. ( Mark I have no
doubt the students did a great job doing what they were ask to do, but to
present this before the BOS in a work session means our county government is
contemplating this as a possible policy and as per Mr Call's quote in the news
article " This has been a great prelude that will push the county
toward a green building policy,' [Call] said. 'I want Cochise County to be the
most welcoming county in the state when it comes to green
development.'" To whom will it be the most welcoming for? The
developer?)
My big
question here is our county government works for the people currently living
and paying taxes in Cochise County, where are the incentives to the average
everyday voter to go green? Where is the incentive for property owners to
go solar, do water harvesting, or plant native vegetation. Our
county does not see the average citizen, because we already QUIETLY pay
our taxes, what they see are how many new homes a developer
can build on 1 parcel of property thus the developer has
increased profit and the county has increased tax revenue,
based ON the other work session the county had
that CONCLUDED homes in developments bring in more tax revenue. We
give the developers an allowance if they cluster homes together, this
allowance takes in the washes and hills that they are not allowed to build
homes in anyway, so in some cases they are not really giving up the open
space as is always presented.